Friday, August 19, 2005

Michael Marcavage, Holy Warrior, but Why Not a Soldier in Iraq?

Certainly Mr. Marcavage, Holy Warrior, held his own last night in Citizens Bank Park, where he and a friend, protected by police and Phillies security, held up a sign boldly declaring that "Homosexuality is Sin, Christ Can Set you Free." The multitudes he displayed the sign for were gay, and included the Philadelphia Gay Men's Chorus singing the National Anthem. Now here's the omission in today's article in the Philadelphia Inquirer: Marcavage and his sole fellow Holy Warrior did NOT boo during the singing by the sodomites. That's enough qualification for me -- if he can confront thousands of evil gay men and women in a sports stadium, Michael Marcavage would make a good soldier fighting in Iraq confronting IEDs and Iraqi terrorists, as well as those dangerous women and children. This man, facing off against thousands, is surely no chickenhawk. He's a Holy Warrior, after all.

Now is the time for Michael Marcavage to come to the aid of his country. And you can help. The recruitment office in Philadelphia is at 215-474-0815. We can all call and encourage them to actively recruit Mr. Marcavage. Heck, they could use him as a spy to help enforce the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, couldn't they, then he could be helping scourge Iraq of terrorists while at the same time saving the military of the scourge of gays and lesbians. And for those of you who wish to encourage Michael Marcavage's enlistment yourself, you can send him a message at repent@repentamerica.com or by phone at 1-800-3-REPENT, or by this email form. I'm sure he'll appreciate the support.

Michael Marcavage displayed great courage confronting the evil of homosexuality last night at the Phillies game. Let's not waste that strength and courage in South Philadelphia. Michale Marcavage certainly can do better work in South Baghdad or in Fallujah.

Crossposted at AllSpinZone.

31 Comments:

At 19 August, 2005 10:43, Blogger Bulworth said...

Well, he certainly appears able-bodied. why's he wasting his time at baseball games rather than abroad where our army needs him?

 
At 19 August, 2005 10:59, Blogger SpinDentist said...

My question exactly, bullworth. Think what he could do holding a sign while protected by the military police over in Fallujah! The mind boggles! Surely the war would turn around.

 
At 19 August, 2005 11:52, Blogger Blogenfreude said...

He's 25 orr 26 years old, appears healthy, and, if he can avoid being convicted for assault or hate speech, he'd make a fine soldier.

 
At 19 August, 2005 17:33, Blogger Scorpio said...

Here is the best chickenhawk essay yet from a lady who recently reenlisted in the Reserves: http://www.livejournal.com/users/ginmar/490234.html

 
At 19 August, 2005 21:46, Blogger Blogenfreude said...

Sent the following by email - but I think we need a bigger campaign for this soldier-of-Christ:

Michael - you appear healthy, you are 25 or 26, and you obviously support the Bush "Crusade" (his word) against the infidel in Iraq. You have to sign up! Your country needs you. The military is falling behind on its recruiting goals. What better way to show your belief in Jesus and the Bush theocracy than to go to Iraq and fight for Empire! If you come back, THEN you can continue your preaching. But first things first!

Patriotically yours,

The General's Aide

 
At 20 August, 2005 00:29, Blogger SID Tune said...

Maybe I missed something or maybe it was said in the link to the Philly Post, but nowhere in SpinDentist's post is it said that this guy supports the war in iraq. So basically, all this post is saying is that becuase he has a problem with homosexuals he should enlist? Was this the intent of OYE? To somehow get everyone with a differing political opinion to sign up to fight in iraq regardless of their stance on the war? Amazing!

 
At 20 August, 2005 10:41, Blogger Blogenfreude said...

Sid, do you suppose this guy voted for Kerry? You know the story with almost all Bush's supporters - they have the same knee-jerk views right down the line. War? Good. Stem cells? Bad. 4th Amendment violations? Good. Abortion? Bad.

Now do you really suppose this soldier-for-Christ is one of those turn-the-other-cheek Christians?

 
At 20 August, 2005 12:07, Blogger SpinDentist said...

Sid, he may not support the war in Iraq. Still, he is valiant in facing down thousands of gays and lesbians with just a small honor guard of Philadelphia Police Officers and Philadelphia Phillies Security between him and certain humiliation. To that end, Michael Marcavage certainly will make a fine edition to our forces, as he has the courage to fight this holy battle.

 
At 20 August, 2005 12:39, Blogger Elaine Supkis said...

Next time when linking to articles where you have to sign up, put one or two paragraphs in the text so the point can be made. 90% of us don't want to register with every blasted paper that appears online.

 
At 20 August, 2005 12:45, Blogger deleteme4444 said...

It's funny. I'm almost certain Ballparks don't allow political signage.

Why the exception here?

 
At 20 August, 2005 13:47, Blogger oldwhitelady said...

Boy, that guy would look so handsome in military uniform!

 
At 20 August, 2005 14:21, Blogger SID Tune said...

Just as I thought, Spin. OYE has gone beyond it's original stated purpose. Instead of, "if you support the war then enlist", OYE has taken on the creed, "if you're not a liberal then go and enlist despite your views on the war". Seems like OYE has degenerated into just another liberal blog taking potshots at conservatives. But then, was it ever anything else to begin with?

 
At 20 August, 2005 14:47, Blogger Blogenfreude said...

Sid, are you for the war? If so, can you go? Even if just voted for Bush and maybe were sort of wishy-washy ... your president needs you.

 
At 20 August, 2005 15:10, Blogger Ohdave said...

Have contacted said chickenhawk and urged him to answer Dear Leader's call for service.

Not holding my breath.

 
At 20 August, 2005 15:44, Blogger markg8 said...

I read that article yesterday in the Philly Inquirer sports section. Yeah that's right the sports section even though the story really had nothing to do with the baseball game.

I just don't get it. The Phillies have promotions all year long like any ballclub trying to bolster their fanbase among various minorities etc. I haven't heard of any other case where they allow inflammatory signs likes this to be displayed let alone bring in cops to protect the perpetrators' “free speech” rights. They have a history of not allowing any controversial signs whatsoever.

Is there any point in having a “gay day” at the ballpark and then allowing this guy to spread his hate in the guise of religion? It's like inviting your neighbor over and then sticking your thumb in his eye. It's obvious gays are still second class citizens in this country. What makes the Phillies think it's a good marketing idea to allow this clown to remind them of that on a day the team is supposedly trying to make them feel welcome?

What next? Allowing those whackjobs from Kansas who protest at soldiers' funerals holding up signs that say God kills our soldiers because we allow homosexuals to live in the US to make their case on Armed Forces day?

It makes just as much sense and it's just as insulting.

crossposted at Allspinzone

 
At 20 August, 2005 16:49, Blogger Libby Spencer said...

Well, I couldn't resist. If the guy wants to fight gays, let him fight gay terrorists. Here's what I sent to Michael Marcavage:

I read about your courage in confronting the Gay Men's Chorus. We need men of your bravery to fight the evil ones "there" so we don't have to fight them "here."

Please help our country in this noble cause and enlist forthwith to fight the war on homosexual terrorists.

Patriot Americans are depending on men like you.

I signed in as Betsy Ross from Freedom, KY, but left my real email. Wonder if he'll write me back.
The Impolitic

 
At 20 August, 2005 17:26, Blogger Glen said...

As a gay man of a certain vintage, the photo inspired the following reaction: "Oh, Mary, who do you think you're kidding?"

 
At 20 August, 2005 18:55, Blogger Blogenfreude said...

Glen - I looked Marcavage's website (but not for long - it's the worst). I think he's a self-hating gay. Something about taking the cure .... What crap.

 
At 20 August, 2005 19:45, Blogger SID Tune said...

Steve, why does it matter? Does my being for or against the iraq war somehow change the fact that Mr. Marcavage's anti-gay protesting has absolutly nothing to do with the war? If I had voted for Bush would OYE's message be something other then petty conservative bashing?

 
At 20 August, 2005 20:29, Blogger Blogenfreude said...

Sid - it's very simple. We have no draft. Bush started a war we didn't have to fight, and now we can't commit enought troops to win it without becoming vulnerable. Since there's no draft, those who wanted the war, supported the war, believe in the war, should be the first to go.

So answer the question - can you take a little time off? I understand there's a pretty decent signup bonus.

 
At 20 August, 2005 21:43, Blogger SID Tune said...

Steve, I won't answer that question. In the eyes of OYE I've been incriminated by the sole fact that I'm not a liberal. Even if I *don't* support the war, well I'm just as guilty for it becuase I have a similar idealogy to those that started the war. Infact, everyone who is at all conservative should enlist. All those who voted for Bush should enlist. No matter if they voted for Bush cuz' they thought Kerry would be worse or because they were illinformed about the issues. Hell, even those people who didn't vote for anyone should enlist becuase they're guilty of enabling the Bush regime, right? Admit it. Anyone who doesn't follow the OYE party line should enlist or else they are 'chickenhawks' or 'yellow elephants' or whatever meaningless buzz world you come with to deride you political opponents with.

 
At 21 August, 2005 01:17, Blogger Mr. Landon said...

sid, methinks you miss the point.

Many of the people you are describing are folks who are at this moment thinking the war in Iraq was a bad idea. Many people who voted for Bush--or even those who didn't vote--also feel the war was a bad idea.

But there are others who lambaste (the word criticize is far too tame) the anti-war crowd for speaking the damn truth. And the truth is that this administration lied its ass off to get into this war. Now if you disagree with that, stop reading. But if you agree that this war was based on a pack of lies, then you also have to agree that those defending this war share the blind loyalty for Bush that Bush has for his "vision"--that freedom in Iraq is just around the corner and anybody who disagrees deserves unmitigated scorn.

The problem with such people is that they aren't doing the work. It's not because they don't believe in the work; it's because they are scared of dying. So they're willing to metaphorically scratch the eyes out of any critic of the war and keep typing away at the keyboard *SO LONG AS SOMEONE ELSE IS DOING THE FIGHTING!* The army has a well known shortage of folk. These are folk who could help. They don't want to because they don't want to pay the ultimate price. They are Chickenhawks, Sid. Yellow Elephants. The least they deserve is satire at the hands of a blogger. I think they deserve much worse but that's just me.

 
At 21 August, 2005 09:19, Blogger SID Tune said...

Suffering, I understand all that. And I agree that those that want the war should be the ones to fight it. But the problem is that OYE has been over politicizing the war. Calling people who play violent videogames and anti-gay protesters chickenhawks only serves to cheapen the meaning of the word. If this continues words like yellow elephant and chickenhawk will become, in the eyes of the general public, liberal buzz words that have no meaning. Honestly, what does Mr. Marcavage have to do with the war? How is he, someone who hasn't even made a statement on iraq, a chickenhawk?

 
At 21 August, 2005 10:25, Blogger Blogenfreude said...

Wait, wait ... Sid, did you say "over politicizing" the war? When anyone who even slightly criticizes Bush on the war is branded a terrorist supporter? When all who point out that Bush lied to the House, the Senate, the American people, and the world are barred from press conferences and Bush events and wind up camping out on a lonely road in the hope that the First Liar might fess up? Sid, snap out of it.

If Marcavage comes out against the war, sure, he should get a pass. But something tells me that, somewhere behind those crazed eyes, he believes that Bush is rightly carrying the banner for Jesus.

So Sid, at least answer this: Have you come out against the war?

 
At 21 August, 2005 14:16, Blogger SpinDentist said...

I must say I am very pleased Sid has come out with his arguments. This site should not be one-sided, after all.

Every single contributo here who supports the war has signed up to fight. I guarantee that. Sid, do you support the war?

 
At 21 August, 2005 16:09, Blogger Jay Tea of wizbangblog.com said...

It amazes me. If you can't win the argument on the facts, attack the people making the argument. It's all about making it personal.

I trust that all of you voted for war hero George Bush over draft evader Bill Clinton in 1992, and war hero Bob Dole over Clinton in 1996?

Don't bother trying to discredit me personally. I can and have done it far better in my own words than you could ever hope to do. Just, for a change, consider answering my arguments.

And one final word -- get the fuck over yourselves. The issue of the war is not about you, it's not about me, it's about where we are and where we are going as a nation. If you managed to dig up enough dirt about me to get me tossed in jail for 30 years (not possible, but you could make up stuff -- that seems in line with your ethical standards), that wouldn't change a single fact I've cited or argument I've made.

Shooting the messenger has long been a bad idea. This is simply institutionalizing stupidity.

J.
(Jay Tea of www.wizbangblog.com)

 
At 22 August, 2005 06:49, Blogger SpinDentist said...

Does anyone have any clue what Jay Tea had to say here? Man, I had to go look his website up to figure out which side of the fence he was on.

Jay, nobody is shooting messengers here. This article is about a guy with the courage to face thousands in the cultural war, and suggests that were he to be used as IED fodder in Iraq he may serve his country far better. After all, there are no gay and lasbian terrorists attacking skyscrapers in our major cities, Jerry Falwell notwithstanding.

Truly, I've no clue why you brought George Bush I or Clinton into this. Clinton, that I've seen, has not advocated for the War in Iraq. The whole concept of Operation Yellow Elephant, in case it has slipped past you, is to alert military recruiters to those who support the war, figuring they would be those who would most likely enlist. Ergo, your pointing towards Bill Clinton, who does not support the war, is. . . let me put this kindly. . . as logically challenging as "intelligent design." We don't accept such "faith-based" approaches here.

 
At 22 August, 2005 10:11, Blogger Blogenfreude said...

And Jay Tea - attack the person making the argument? You mean like the Bushies (and their propaganda arms) are attacking Cindy Sheehan? Please ...

So JT - are YOU doing anything for the next 24-48 months? Support the war? Want to see foreign lands?

 
At 22 August, 2005 11:13, Blogger Bulworth said...

"And one final word -- get the fuck over yourselves."

Uh oh, better watch out. Jay Tea's got clout. He's been hanging around Cheney.

 
At 22 August, 2005 20:51, Blogger Blogenfreude said...

SpinDentist - an update: NO response from repentamerica.wrong or Marc the Savage despite my trenchant email of last Friday ... do you suppose he has priorities other than defending us from the infidels, blasphemers, and nonbelievers in Iraq?

Yours, curiously,

stevenyc

 
At 31 August, 2005 13:47, Blogger severus said...

He may appear to be healthy, but appearances can be decieving. Like many of those targeted by operation yellow elephant he is aflicted with a serious birth defect. Apparently he (and other Yellow Elephant targets) was born without a spine. He has no backbone of his own to use, so he needs to use others spines, as well as their nuts. Though i do give him props for having some bravery in heckling gay people to their faces, but he did have the bible to hold his backl together then, and he probably needed to do something publicly to get donations for his cause.

 

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