Saturday, May 17, 2008

Can Someone Explain These, Please

Questions for some of our commenters:

All services are basically meeting their recruitment goals, which are seasonally adjusted. [At least, this is what the Pentagon's DefenseLink.mil says every month.]

Supposedly, all services are also basically meeting their enlisted retention goals.

If, in fact, this is indeed the case, why is it necessary to call up, involuntarily, the Individual Ready Reserve [IRR], as described on this blog and elsewhere?

We understand that junior Army officers (Lieutenants and Captains) are getting burned out from frequently deployments; many are leaving the service at historically high rates, just when they are at the point where their substantial combat experience makes them extremely valuable to the Army, and to our nation, for decades to come.

The Army is trying to offer bonuses, etc., but is not really in a position to make a serious commitment to, say, reducing deployment frequency to two years at home for every year away. [We commend Army leadership for refusing to make any commitment they cannot keep; it's more honest that way.]

If, in fact, this is indeed the case, how do those who aspire to national civilian political leadership, and their supporters, plan to deal with this? Don't they see any national leadership responsibility to set a good example for the rest of us?

48 Comments:

At 18 May, 2008 12:50, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Commander are under enormous pressure to keep unit strength numbers. The fact that people are being called up from the IIR, the use of morals waivers, the use of stop-loss orders and medically unfit soldiers being returned to combat duty underlie that recruitment numbers are a sham. The powers that be are willing to do just about anything to keep from the poison phrase, “Broken Military”, which then implies the next kiss-of-death phrase, “Military Draft”.

 
At 20 May, 2008 13:08, Blogger Groenhagen said...

"If, in fact, this is indeed the case, why is it necessary to call up, involuntarily, the Individual Ready Reserve [IRR], as described on this blog and elsewhere?"

This has been explained to you before OYE, but apparently you're a bit slow. Maybe if you had spent some time in uniform, you wouldn't ask such silly questions.

No one is being called up "involuntarily." The IRR is part of the enlistment contract. When you volunteer for the military, you also volunteer for the IRR.

Maybe you and your fellow Democrat Party operatives should start a blog on topics you know about.

 
At 20 May, 2008 13:18, Anonymous Diablo said...

HEY groanad!!! (I love saying that) What uniform have you spent time in DOUCHBAG ? annd taco bell uniform doesn't count. And don't tell me we've been over this before cause I ain't buyin it, JIZZ.

XOXOX, DIablo

 
At 20 May, 2008 14:00, Blogger Groenhagen said...

I spent time in a Marine Corps uniform, squirt. You've got my name and years I served. With that, a recourseful person could verify my service record.

 
At 20 May, 2008 21:21, Anonymous Ernie1812 said...

No need to pay attention to Gro--never seen combat but likes to fck over the troops--enhagen. He just likes to bully people and imply that he's been in the shit. All the while conveniently evading the fact that he avoided actually serving in ANY of the plentiful wars during his lifetime. But, I'm sure he'll tell you imaginative "war stories" of "rough" barracks life in 1983 while he shamelessly wears his "cold war veteran" hat.

The fact that he makes comments such as: "No one is being called up "involuntarily." The IRR is part of the enlistment contract. When you volunteer for the military, you also volunteer for the IRR." just shows how much he disdains the troops, and how little he cares about the military. Apparently fcking over the brave men and women who have the courage to serve by sending them over and over and over again into theater, forcing them to press their luck, exploiting their selfless service, because chicken hawks (like the cowards he supports and defends) still refuse to serve is A-ok in his book.

Groen, why do you hate the troops so much? Is it because we're the men you never were and always wished to be? Maybe in the next life you'll man up and not skip out on all these wonderful wars.

Semper Fi, chickensh*t

-Ernie
Sgt. 1st Tanks USMC
OEF 2001-2002
OIF 2003

Iraq/Afghanistan vet to Groen: "Seen much combat?"
Groen's answer: "I've seen a little on tv."

 
At 21 May, 2008 15:49, Blogger Groenhagen said...

Ernie:

Well, squirt, you just smeared every veteran who served during the 1980s, including those who died on Grenada, in Lebanon, and in training accidents. According to the Department of Defense, there were 11,216 accidental deaths during the five-year period prior to 1988. In other words, we lost nearly three times as many troops due to accidents during that five-year period than we have lost in Iraq during the past five years. You just spat on all of them, squirt. Not a single one of them enlisted in the military with the guarantee that there would be no major wars during the 1980s. In fact, the early 1980s was potentially far much dangerous than anything we have seen during this decade.

The simple fact is that the IRR is part of the enlistment contract. This is explained to everyone when they enlist, and they are reminded of it when they separate from the service.

"Groen, why do you hate the troops so much? Is it because we're the men you never were and always wished to be? Maybe in the next life you'll man up and not skip out on all these wonderful wars."

Wrong, squirt. I support the troops. It's your side (Keith Olbermann, Rosie O'Donnell, Jack Murtha, etc.) that attacks the troops on a regular basis.

 
At 21 May, 2008 15:59, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, Kevy, a wonderful example of a Groeney Class 4 (submissive recitation of right wing blog entry). Way to go, son! Keep up the good work!

Anonymouse

 
At 21 May, 2008 16:03, Blogger Groenhagen said...

Anonymouse:

Get a life, you sad, little man.

 
At 21 May, 2008 16:05, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kevy, I'm not the one sitting in my basement with blogs that are never viewed and a "book" that's never been read.

Keep supporting those troops from your basement, dude.

Anonymouse

 
At 21 May, 2008 16:16, Anonymous Ernie1812 said...

:) my point proven.

You sure do love them straw man arguments don't-cha.

Groen, why do you hate the troops so much? Is it because we're the men you never were and always wished to be? Maybe in the next life you'll man up and not skip out on all these wonderful wars.

Semper Fi, chickensh*t

-Ernie
Sgt. 1st Tanks USMC
OEF 2001-2002
OIF 2003

Iraq/Afghanistan vet to Groen: "Seen much combat?"
Groen's answer: "I've seen a little on tv."

 
At 21 May, 2008 16:20, Blogger Groenhagen said...

anonymouse:

Well, what do you have? You clearly lack the intelligence to write a book. But I suppose it makes a little squirt like you feel better by attacking what others have done.

You lack the courage to use your real name here, so that doesn't reflect well on you.

It seems that you're lacking in most areas.

Like I said before, get a life.

 
At 21 May, 2008 16:24, Blogger Groenhagen said...

ernie:

You're an idiot.

First you write this:

"You sure do love them straw man arguments don't-cha."

Then you write this:

"Groen, why do you hate the troops so much? Is it because we're the men you never were and always wished to be? Maybe in the next life you'll man up and not skip out on all these wonderful wars."

You're so stupid that you falsely accused someone else of offering a staw-man argument and then offered an actual one of your own.

You just spit on hundreds of thousands of veterans who served during the 1980s and then you accused me of hating the troops. I guess we should expect anything less from you and your fellow pimply-faced College Democrats.

 
At 21 May, 2008 16:27, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Kevy...

Another classic Groeney Class One...keep 'em up, son.

I actually have a very full life. I work, teach and get to correct egotists who aren't used to leaving their homes and having other human beings actually pay attention to them...Life is good, thank you...

Anonymouse

Parenthetically, I was published a couple decades ago...and at least 3 other people read it!

 
At 21 May, 2008 16:30, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Kevy...I see that you're starting to use some of the debating techniques that I taught you last week. Bravo! Maybe this proves that you are actually capable of learning new things beyond the rote memorization usuaully required by your masters. I'd be happy to teach you a few more argumentation skills.

Anonymouse

 
At 21 May, 2008 16:36, Blogger Groenhagen said...

anonymouse:

"I actually have a very full life. I work, teach and get to correct egotists who aren't used to leaving their homes and having other human beings actually pay attention to them."

Yes, you claimed you were a teacher. How sad for the children. Those who can't, teach.

"Parenthetically, I was published a couple decades ago...and at least 3 other people read it!"

Prove it.

 
At 21 May, 2008 16:37, Anonymous Ernie1812 said...

you such a funny little coward :)

btw its pimply faced kids (with more courage than cowards like you and those you support) that have and are taking rpg's right now, so stop spitting on them (ooo look, i just made a Groeney, and yup its sounds just as stupid as when you write that crap).

Groen, why do you hate the troops so much? Is it because we're the men you never were and always wished to be? Maybe in the next life you'll man up and not skip out on all these wonderful wars.

Semper Fi, chickensh*t

-Ernie
Sgt. 1st Tanks USMC
OEF 2001-2002
OIF 2003

Iraq/Afghanistan vet to Groen: "Seen much combat?"
Groen's answer: "I've seen a little on tv."

 
At 21 May, 2008 16:43, Blogger Groenhagen said...

ernie:

"you such a funny little coward :)"

Yes, but look who lacks the courage to use his real name here. Says volumes about you, doesn't it?

I see you have taken the "Putting People First" approach to your posts. Beats thinking.

 
At 21 May, 2008 16:44, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah Kevy...at least you're consistent...yet another Groeney Class One...

It's a good thing there are folks who do teach...Consider the alternative: Little Groeneys being homeschooled.

Anonymouse

 
At 21 May, 2008 16:46, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kevy...You response to Ernie was really pretty sad. It lacked your usual visceral bite. Why don't you try rewriting it?

Anonymouse

 
At 21 May, 2008 16:56, Blogger Groenhagen said...

anonymouse:

In general, those home-schooled kids are getting a better education than those poor kids in your government schools. That's why they keep winning those spelling bees.

BTW, Thomas Sowell in "Inside American Education" notes, "Consistently, for decades, those college students who have majored in education have been among the least qualified of all college students, and the professors who taught them have been among the least respected by their colleagues elsewhere in the college or university." Further, "85 percent of those in the top 20 percent leave teaching after relatively brief careers--while low-ability people tend to remain teachers."

From the evidence available here, you're one of those low-ability people. I guess we should be thanking that you spend all day on blogs instead of miseducating students.

 
At 21 May, 2008 16:59, Blogger Groenhagen said...

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At 21 May, 2008 17:11, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, Groeney, from my experience, those homeschooled kids are not very well-socialized. My experience has also taught me that Sowell is correct with regard to education majors. If you had ever dated a teacher, you would have a clue about that...

Anomymouse

 
At 21 May, 2008 17:16, Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the way Kevy, just as a debating pointer, as far as my comment about the fact that no one looks at your blogs or has read your book, it probably would have helped your argument if you had said that SOMEONE, ANYONE had read them...at least your wife. I know that your immediate reaction to any comment is to attack but in some cases, it helps to defend yourself. Just trying to help you out, son...

Anonymouse

 
At 21 May, 2008 17:21, Blogger Groenhagen said...

anonymouse:

"If you had ever dated a teacher, you would have a clue about that..."

Why would a date a "low-ability" woman? And, as you admit, Sowell is correct. Why waste my time dating a low-ability person to get a clue when I can just read Sowell's book. Sowell is far better informed and his book is a lot less expensive than dinner and a movie.

 
At 21 May, 2008 17:25, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kevy...here's another debate pointer...It's not useful to continue to debate a point where you agree with the opponent...In this case, you're merely subjecting yourself to potential carpel tunnel. Then again, you're so used to attacking, I guess it's second nature.

Anonymouse

 
At 21 May, 2008 17:28, Blogger Groenhagen said...

anonymouse:

I bet a high-ability teacher would not find it necessary to post twice time after time when everything could be said in one post. The would eliminate the BTW posts. It suggests that your mind does not work all that quickly when you have all those after thoughts.

Concerning the blogs, the comments (including from you) show that SOMEONE, ANYONE has read them. Therefore, there was no need for me to make such a statement.

As far as the book, we'll see how it goes when it is completed. As I have mentioned before, the first draft was written last fall when Hillary Clinton was the "inevitable" Democrat Party nominee. That is no longer the case, so some rewriting is needed before the book is ready to sell. For the time being, I have made it available for free to see if anyone can spot errors. No one has so far.

And back to your book. Prove that you have been published.

 
At 21 May, 2008 17:31, Blogger Groenhagen said...

It's "carpal tunnel," Teach. God help our children.

 
At 21 May, 2008 17:41, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good boy, Kevy. It's good to see that you're learning to actually respond to a comment as opposed to merely lashing out. The quality of your writing has actually improved when you have to get away from the pre-programmed blog responses foisted upon you by your masters. That's makes your teacher proud. Since I've been able to teach you a few things and you've not been relying on your Groeneys as much, it must mean that I am a VERY high-ability teacher.

As to your inflated sense of your audience, I hope you noticed that the only folks who have looked at your ranblings only did so after you started posting at OYE-hardly a case of spontaneous approval. I also note that you STILL haven't mentioned a single person who has read your book...not even your wife. That makes it look like you can't even convince HER to look at it. While that may not be true, it still makes you look bad. You might want to try to correct that.

So endeth Kevy's lessons for the day. Have a good one.

Anonymouse

 
At 22 May, 2008 10:38, Blogger Doppelganger said...

I can't decide if it is funny or pathetic that right-wing losers are STILL attacking Bill Clinton, while at the same time strapping on the knee pads for that great coward Ronnie Reagan...

Especailly a rightie whose claim to machismo fame is being a desk jockey for the jarheads.

 
At 23 May, 2008 14:50, Blogger Groenhagen said...

Anonymouse:

Still waiting for you to prove you have published a book. It's beginning to look as if this is merely another of your lies here.

doppelganger:

Bill Clinton is still relevant in 2008. I know you Green Baboons aren't very informed, but his wife is running for president. As far as Reagan, it's laughable to call the man who brought down the Soviet Union a coward. (BTW, Clinton lied to a Bataan Death March survivor in order to get out of his draft induction. I suppose you don't consider that cowardly.)

 
At 24 May, 2008 01:39, OpenID doggerelface said...

Out of both ears the steam it hisses,

It's always the fault of Bubba and Missus

 
At 27 May, 2008 13:07, Blogger Groenhagen said...

doggerelface:

I'm surprised that you believe it was all right for Bill Clinton to lie to a Bataan Death March survivor in order to dodge the draft. That says a great deal about your lack of character.

 
At 27 May, 2008 13:32, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kevy, Kevy, Kevy...I see that you're back to your old tricks with a triple Groeney (right wing talking point; strawman argument & ad hominem attack). It's nice to see that submissive little Kevy hasn'tr changed...

Anonymouse

 
At 27 May, 2008 13:46, Blogger Groenhagen said...

Bill Clinton lied to a Bataan Death March survivor in order to get out of his draft induction. That's a fact, not a right-wing talking point.

Maybe this summer your should spend less time on left-wing blogs and more tiume with educating yourself. Your students deserve much better.

BTW, this question is getting a bit old, but when are you finally going to provide proof that you have published a book?

 
At 27 May, 2008 14:19, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kevy, I know that talking points are the life-blood of your arguments, but you realy need to admit to yourself that you're submissively accepting of people who you feel are your superiors. That's the first step on the road to becoming a thinking, functioning member of society.

 
At 27 May, 2008 14:23, Blogger Groenhagen said...

Again, this question is getting a bit old, but when are you finally going to provide proof that you have published a book? You made the claim--now back it up. It you don't provide, I can only conclude that you were lying again.

 
At 27 May, 2008 14:41, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kevy...this repeated question is an example of why you need to go back on your meds...I'll tell you what...I'll respond to this question if you respond to the question that I've been asking for weeks...What is the name of one person, other thn yourself, who has read YOUR book?

 
At 27 May, 2008 14:48, Blogger Groenhagen said...

I have never been on meds and don't need meds. Nice try at avoiding the question.

My father and aunt have read the book. There will be more after the book is finalized later this year.

Okay, your turn. Prove that you have actually published a book.

 
At 27 May, 2008 14:56, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good boy, Kevy...You follow instructions like a pro! (no surprise!). I am sure that they both patted you on the head and gave you a cookie.

I can't prove that I actually published a book. I never claimed that I did.

 
At 27 May, 2008 15:01, Blogger Groenhagen said...

More BS from anonymouse.

You said that you were published a couple of decades ago. You clearly suggested that you had published a book.

Of course, you could have provided this answer (albeit a dishonest answer) last week. Okay, prove to us that you have been published.

 
At 27 May, 2008 15:05, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah Kevy...isn't this an ironic statement from someone who is so quick to complain about reading comprehension? "Clearly suggested"... isn't that an indicatiob that the great Kevy might have made an overstatement in his accusations...I NEVER said that I published a book, did I? You should apologize for calling me a liar, shouldn't you, Kevy? C'mon, apologize as you've been instructed, little guy...

Anonymouse

 
At 27 May, 2008 15:16, Blogger Groenhagen said...

You're still avoiding the question. You clearly said that you were published. Prove it.

Also, if you're going to continue to issue insults such as "little guy," at least have the courage to use your real name. Stop hiding behind the tree.

 
At 27 May, 2008 15:29, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kevy, Kevy, Kevy...we're being awfully sensitive today. I'm just using the phrase "little guy" as a phrase of encouragement. I've decided to take you under my wing and teach you how to debate...since it appears that your mommy & daddy were somewhat inadequate in teaching you to socialize and debate with others...a typical failing with the homeschooled. Now be a good boy and start playing nicely

Anonymouse

 
At 27 May, 2008 16:34, Blogger Groenhagen said...

anonymouse:

Let's see. You lied about be published. You're obviously a substandard teacher, but you can't be fired because you belong to a union. Like most members of your union, you denigrate those who were home-schooled because they are walking, talking proof that you and your ilk are not as productive as even parents with a low level of education. You never spent a day in uniform, yet you spend all day on a blog that is ostensibly about military issues. And you issue insults here towards those you disagree with, yet lack the courage to post using your real name. In short, you're a loser and you know it.

 
At 27 May, 2008 16:56, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kevy, Kevy, Kevy: Well done, little guy: a classic quad Groeney (a strawman, an untruth and 2 insults). These mental gynmastics must make you tired but probably make your ideological masters very happy with you.

Your little rantings and ravings make it pretty clear that if you were indeed homeschooled, mommy & daddy probably aren't using that fact as evidence of the superiority of homeschooling. If you did go to "government school," you might have a point that the teachers in Illinois failed you. I'll try to teach you some of the lessons you need to learn in dealing & debating with others. Just hang in there and I'm sure you'll learn a couple things in the next few weeks.

 
At 27 May, 2008 17:16, Blogger Groenhagen said...

anonymouse:

"Kevy, Kevy, Kevy: Well done, little guy..."

Again, how about coming out from behind your tree and issue these insults in the open? I use my real name here. Your failure to do likewise says a great deal about your lack of courage, doesn't it?

And where's that proof concerning your claim that you have been published?

 
At 27 May, 2008 17:41, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kevy, you might be the manliest guy on the Internet...I know that you're angling to be the next Coulter, so it's obvious that YOU'RE trying to make a name for yourself. Quite honestly, I don't need the blogosphere to make a name for myself. I'm merely here to help educate little submissive Kevy...You will be my prize pupil once you've finished your on-line education, Kevy.

Anonymouse

 
At 27 May, 2008 23:01, OpenID doggerelface said...


No more research papers and mid terms

His wise nuggets are churned from out

North end of a south bound pachyderm

Posturing as erudite,a churlish lout

 

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