Sunday, August 06, 2006

Military Recruiting Leads: Minnesota

Attention Military Recruiters:

Look at these healthy young men. Eric Hoplin, left, Deputy State Chairman of our governing party in Minnesota, and Andy VanDam, 7th Congressional District Coordinator, right, strongly support President Bush. While they're busy now working on the November elections, they might be available to report to basic training in January. [Assuming they're heterosexual, that is.]

Bemidji Pioneer money quote on Hoplin's future plans:

Hoplin is not sure what his next stop will be, but he said he hopes it somehow involves fighting terrorism. He does not rule out running for office some day, but he makes it sound like that day may be a long ways off.

Isn't that what the Delayed Entry Program is for? It would certainly add some serious credibility to our governing party's efforts in Minnesota. OK, Eric and Andy, click here.

Note: Hoplin turned 28 on July 31. Let's wish him Happy Belated Birthday, Be A Man, Enlist!

UPDATE August 6: The Bemidji Pioneer printed Operation Yellow Elephant's Call to Action (an Invitation to Be A Man! Enlist!).

Note: I'm not in the military; this was an editing assumption by the newspaper.


At 30 July, 2006 16:41, Blogger Peter Porcupine said...

So tell me - wil you be posting about Sen. John McCain's son volunteering to go into the military?

Or are you just interested in cherrypicking to match your foregone conclusion?

At 31 July, 2006 04:49, Blogger Karl said...

peter porcupine-

We will be posting about Senator McCain's two sons, one of whom is at the Naval Academy; the other is joining the Marines.

We thank them for their commitment to serving our nation in uniform.

What makes this a major story is the fact that this seldom happens. That's why it won't get the future leaders of our governing party off the hook.

At 01 August, 2006 23:00, Blogger Beach Bum said...

Chickenhawks? Seems to be an epidemic of it these days. Lots of gung-ho types seem to catch it just as soon as they have to to put their money where their mouth is. I did 4 years active duty in the army and 17 in the SC National Guard. For that reason my children will never serve. Its time some of these healthy young shining examples of American youth serve their country. My family has done its part.

At 03 August, 2006 00:04, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I sent Eric this e-mail. I hope he'll do the honorable thing...?

Dear Eric,

I'm disturbed regarding your support of President Bush. In these dangerous times it is imperative that every able bodied American male do his part in Iraq.

Don't you support the war? Of course you do! So I've take the liberty to include this link to help you enlist.

I know you'll do the right thing.



P.S. I hope Al Franken runs.

At 09 August, 2006 16:31, Anonymous Anonymous said...

These people are too funny looking to fight for America.

At 10 August, 2006 17:37, Blogger Valannin said...

I'm not sure I understand your organization's purpose. You think that because Republicans support the war then Republicans should be fighting the war? What about the dozens of Democrat Senators and Congressmen who supported the war, the Patriot Act, the military budget, etc. What about the millions of American Democrat voters who, despite attempts from the left, support the war?

I mean, I've read your, um, manifesto and everything, and I certainly don't have my "Big Book of Logical Fallacies" handy, but my friend, this is a logical fallacy writ large.

"Supporting" a war is very different than say, supporting gay rights. In supporting gay rights, you can go out, make your point known, distribute some literature, even petition congress, all without becoming gay. Those who "pushed" for the war in Iraq, and indeed the War on Terrorism did so in the best interests of the 260 million American people, and, by definition of their station in office, with their consent.

Furthermore, people who join the Young Republicans, et al, do so in support of Conservative polices, not necessarily with the intentions of military service in mind. Remember, the US has a voluntary standing army; there is no conscription or mandatory service. Why would you attempt to convince through rhetoric people to enlist when they have no desire to do so for any number of reasons?

According to a CNN exit poll conducted after the 2004 election, 57% of the people who voted for Bush (read: Republicans) served time in the military. One can make a logical deduction then that the military is made up of more than 50% Republican soldiers.

So maybe I'm not sure of your goal here. If it's to get more Republicans involved in the US Military, they already hold a majority there. If it's to persuade US Congressional REpublicans to sign their progeny up for military service, well, Michael Moore already made an ass out himself with that little gag. I'm not trying to be derogatory towards your organization; it just seems to me that "Supporting our President by encouraging his strongest consider serving in our all-volunteer military." is a little tongue-in-cheek. The president's strongest supporters are already serving. I'm just not following you.

Thank you for giving the opportunity to pose my questions, and I apologise for the length of this comment.

At 10 August, 2006 17:50, Anonymous Anonymous said...


Both those young men look like they could afford to lose a few pounds, and perhaps gain a little character by hobnobbing with the troops. If the troops will have them.

At 12 August, 2006 19:57, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I sent them both a polite email, no "HOOOOYAAAA!" at the end.

However, maybe I should have sent them this important info:

"So I figured while I'm here. I'll lose a few pounds. You got a six- to eight-week training program here, a tough one. Which is perfect for me. I'm gonna walk out of here a lean, mean, fighting machine."


At 12 August, 2006 21:40, Blogger Sadie Baker said...

Mr. Valaninn,

I'm not one of the creators of this site, but I am a regular reader, if you don't mind I'd like to take a stab at your questions.

You are right to focus on the word "support." That really is what it all boils down to, what does it mean to support something or somebody? The dictionary gives a couple of definitions, the most relevant being "to promote the cause of" and "to pay the costs of."

If I had to say what the purpose of this site was, I would say it's to draw attention to the different ways people use that word. The Republican ruling class "supports" the war in that they believe it's a good idea, but they don't "support" it in that they are not the ones paying the costs.

The ones who are paying for this war, and the ones who are profiting from it, are two different sets of people. These fine folks at OYE are making sure no one forgets this sad fact.

At 13 August, 2006 20:20, Blogger robash141 said...

Mr Valannin,
what you said about Republicans already being overepresented in the Military is false.

Active Miltary people can vote and they can hold non-partisan political office like being on the schoool board However they are strictly prohibited by the UCMJ from engaging in ANY partisan political activities.
This rule is a good one its a safeguard against political factionalism within the ranks . There may be a lot of people who voted for Bush in the military ,but there are no Republicans just like there are no Democrats


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